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A collection of general questions that have come up here and there.

  • Why such emphasis on being able to use multiple implementations of various bits of infrastructure (storage layers, message queues, etc)? Is it a need to have or just a nice to have? Especially with regard to Gnocchi this seems to open up complexity and perhaps more importantly slowness (of development).

AMQP was one of the first things: rabbitmq v. qpid (pushed by Red Hat) and someone else wanted zero-mqp.

That led to pluggable messaging in oslo.messaging.

Storage driver being pluggable: initially everything used mysql via sql-a but then ceilometer came along with a messy data problem, suggesting document oriented datastore.

Unfortunately legalistic types have issues with the mongodb license (AGPL) so there must be a pluggable infrastructure that makes it possible to not used mongodb.

  • When runnings tests (e.g. tox -epy27) see a pile of warnings an errors. Most from WSME (Server-side error: "Group by not implemented.".) but some pipeline deprecations. The concern is not so much that there are errors and warnings, but that they happen and the tests still pass.

  • Republish data writes on message bus?

  • Prefer discussion in comments that are in or not inline?

  • Fixed*: Blew up my access to OS1

  • What's with all the bash?

  • What are the strict differences between an alarm, event, sample?

Alarm: encapsulation of a condition pertaining to a statistic over time, which has a state: of in-alarm or unknown. Reflects a question, state reflects the answer.

Event: discrete point in time when sometime happened in the lifecycle of a resource. A service emits an notification.

Sample: datapoint with some metadata

  • Process and "thread" management very visible. Seems like it shouldn't be.

  • An error in the collector (with novaclient) didn't cause a failure. Somehow it was just floated over. This seems bad. There's a bug about this.

  • Why are methods called on the message queue rather than messages sent?

  • Questions from Thursday

  • In my devstack ceilometer event-list returns nothing. What will make it return something?

  • Why is ceilometer-dbsync required on first run? Can't slqalchemy do that for you?

Alarms and Stuff

Heat had a built in autoscaling thing that listened to a cloudwatch type thing and wanted to move because non-ideal (stats gathering inside image itself, cron job that could be killed, credentials problems), so there was some planning: slides video.

ceilometer gathers most of the required data, from outside the instances, on the compute nodes.

the alarm-evaluator waits for threshold to be crossed and calls a sort of webhook: it polls the api service instead of in-pipeline because of multi-dimensional aggregates of data.

can't be in the collector either because of multiple collectors for horizontal scaling